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I prefer these will packaged cookies, because it makes it look like cookies are locked up and illegal!

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shush as my post says until i work out if we are exempt (which i dont think we are) then to protect myself from fines (as the web master and owner i am personally accountable) my post is what it is and at some point i may have to put an accept or reject cookie button on the damn sites.

waste of time mainly tbh especially as i have been doing it for days for work
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red_ned wrote:shush as my post says until i work out if we are exempt (which i dont think we are) then to protect myself from fines (as the web master and owner i am personally accountable) my post is what it is and at some point i may have to put an accept or reject cookie button on the damn sites.

waste of time mainly tbh especially as i have been doing it for days for work
You have two options with this by-law Ned. You can clearly and explicitly add to your site something when someone first appears or when they always come on, like the BBC do, saying along the lines of,

"Our website uses cookies for the best browsing experience, if you do accept this continue and acknowledge this fact or discontinue using our site if you disagree".

Or you can go down the route of having an extra function within your site, which turns cookies on/off, which a lot of people have opted not for due to time/cost,

"This site uses cookies, press here to turn on or off".

The most popular is to inform a person if cookies are activated and tell them to accept it or to remove themselves from the site, for obvious reasons.

In fact, here's a screen dump of the BBC one to help you out;
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Hope this helps!

EDIT: Also as you're using some form of advertising that tracks, this means you are not exempt. You're also using a forum which has the option of remembering if the user is to be remembered, to be logged in, invisible etc. Which comes under user preferences which are also 'monitored', so yeah, you need this somewhere.

This website classifies the cookies for you, http://eucookiedirective.com/ , At a quick glance, they're all included in the list of unacceptable without consent. At present, it's only in the form of an EU Directive and doesn't appear to have been registered on legislation.gov, possibly because we're one of the countries that disagree to it or possibly because they're slow. Either way, these guys don't help my studies and don't help you.
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i have already been through all our cookies.
Advertising is for a non profit group (closest thing to forcing the issue)
we are not a formalised organisation like charity or company
as we are all PC gamers we can raise the level of terminology and help in order for people to get rid of cookies
we are a single purpose website (a forum for this or an information site for main web)
1/2 of the cookies don't exist if you don't sign in so membership comes at a cookie cost.
As i am a web developer for 2 councils you can bet i have been through all of this and just wanted to defer any major work (for no real benefits at all) until i have off.
plus the website is in a foreign country and regulations are a lot different in this instance which is the major escape point for now

i will work on it but thought i should put something up quickly to cover us
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That's a bonus, yeah I see the CookieCert message.

I've noticed that some sites where you expect there to be cookies, they don't have much but at the top "Cookies/Privacy link", which then links to a page which explains what is monitored and how. That's a lot of work, but it means you don't have to implement an allowance for the cookies. It's always best to be safe though, as you can pick holes at anything, especially with the issue still being challenged.

For my own projects, I shall probably use this method, particularly as only a child would not realise I am going to be using tracking cookies.
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i installed a full cookie thingy on the website and the cookies page (in footer) has an active table at the bottom which dynamically displays which cookies are sent to YOU i.e. they are specific to you and change to mirror if you are logged in etc or not.

Looks like we are exempt anyway as the web is hosted in the good old USA and it only matters about the hosting location not the client/user base but they are hoping that even though sites are hosted outside the EU that if they are regularly used by Euro people that we would want to have the normal looking stuff they will come to expect with cookies.

only did our website as a test cus i am going to roll it out to one of the sites i manage/develop for work which is on wordpress: http://www.redditchpalacetheatre.org.uk/
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u all lost me at the word Cookie, om nom
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CiC is hosted in the good old USA? dang. I did not know this. That's another one for the "UP YOURS EU" books!

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Noooooooooooooooo
dont turn my joke into a serious discussion
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